On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 05:01:16PM -0400, Smitty wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 July 2001 22:58, you wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 06:05:47PM -0400, Smitty wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 17 July 2001 01:27, you wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Smitty wrote:
> > > > > > >Smitty
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > > Looks as though you got chased off a list in "lunatic state of
> > > > California" ... SVLUG are a pretty tolerant group of fellows
> > >
> > > False accusation, Russ, I was unsubscribed because I refused to not
> > > refute the socialist politics of Moen and Self. They are definitely
> > > intolerant of those who disagree with them.
> >
> > Why did they allow politics on their list in the first place? ;-}
>
> I suggested to Marc Merlins, the pres., that they start some sort of off-topic
> list and he said that he did not want to do that. I explained to Merlins
> that allowing Moen and Self to post political comments but not others with
> a different perspective was discriminatory. He replied that Moen was allowed
> to make off-topic posts because he made "lots" of on-topic ones.
> I told him that was an arbitrary opinion and he replied that he didn't care,
> that's the way it was going to be. Real nice folks out there. Merlins also
> works for VA Linux, another reason I boycott the company.
> >
> > > > -- I've lurked on the list on and off ... Seems that Rick Moen
> > > > and Karsten Self were less tolerant of your antics:
> > >
> > > You just contradicted yourself, Russ. You say they are tolerant, now you
> > > infer they are not tolerant. I object to your calling my making postings
> > > "antics". Are your postings antics?
> >
> > In this case, Russ would _imply_ and you would _infer_. And no, he
> > didn't imply any such thing. In general, they are tolerant, except in
> > the case of whatever you did. Implying that it must have been extreme.
>
> Where is the evidence it was "extreme" and define extreme in this case Paul?
You got me. I didn't see the original thread. But obviously it was
adequate for them to rid themselves of you. Given the outcome, it's
clear _they_ thought it was extreme. Which is what I said in the first
place.
<snip>
> > > Sure did and because he could not refute what I had to say, he went to
> > > the club president and demanded I be unsubscribed. Real sweet guy.
> > > Incidently, he works for VA Linux. A company I will boycott until he
> > > departs.
> >
> > What are you down to now? Five companies? Do you manually check the
> > staff list on their website every day, or do you have it set up as a
> > cron job? ;-}
> It is interesting that you presume without evidence. VA Linux is the only
> one. I believe you are quite sensitive to other folks making accusations
> about you, Paul. I have actually defended you in a certain situation that we
> can discuss off-list someday.
Seems to me like you've mentioned boycotting more than one other company
on the SLUG list. If pressed, I could do a search through the digests
for examples.
I surely hope you don't imagine I'm beholden to you for defending me.
If you deserve defending, I'll be glad to do it. But if you deserve to
be taken down a notch or two, I volunteer (though Russ is far more
skillful than I could ever be). I'm an equal opportunity poster.
> >
> > > > http://lists.svlug.org/pipermail/svlug/2001-April/008194.html
> >
> > You want antics? This last link is antics. I'm reminded of two little
> > boys facing each other, both attempting to stretch their tongue muscles
> > to the absolute limits to spite each other.
>
> Ya? Please reread the above. You need not accuse me of "antics".
> >
> > Seems I recall an earlier post about this same matter that outlined the
> > events in greater detail. And the general pattern of conduct I noted
> > there seems to be repeating here. Must be a coincidence. ;-}
>
> Assumed identities are not identical. You may be referring to the NCSU
> list where I did not care to deal with the offtopic socialist politics and
> unsubscribed myself. You are in no position to publicly evaluate my conduct,
> Paul. I would suggest a discussion off-list for your own sake.
> Smitty
>
I don't recall the original source of that thread, so you could be
right. No matter. Point stands.
You know, you sound like you're threatening me. Let's see-- what's the
worst you could do? Turn all the SLUG members against me and cause them
to vote me out as president? Wooo. I could walk away from this group
tomorrow, satisfied in the knowledge that I did the best I could for a
few years. I don't do this for the money, the fame or the women. And if
I didn't have to be president, I'm sure I could find puhlenty to do with
my time. So give it your best shot.
Paul
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