Bill Ehlert wrote:
>
> Kevin,
>
> I'd love to get a Plextor PX-W2410TA, a 24x-write drive. I've got an 8x HP
> now and use it to transfer files less that 700 MB. I could not bear the
> agony of using it to backup 8 to 10 Gigs every week. I'm too old for that.
> :-(
>
> I noticed that you mentioned your dad's law office. I assist my best friend,
> who is a dentist, in backing up his office files every day. He has a 20 Gig
> Linux server now that is used to store patient records and digital dental
> Xray images. We tried the CD jockey thing for about a month last year, and
> the office manager flipped and nearly quit. Now she backs up every day using
> the hard drive cartridge in 5 min or so and is VERY happy. She even offers
> candy to me now, when I visit the dental office. Guess she likes to see me
> :-)
>
> The dentist keeps 6 hard drive cartidge and rotates them, pulling the 6th
> for montly saves. Now for the cool stuff - he takes the backup offsite, as
> in home, with him every day and brings in an old drive back in the morning
> to be updated. He pops the backup in his home computer and verifies files.
> Here's the really good part - If a patient calls with an emergency after
> office hours, he has all their records and Xray images at home! He know what
> was done and uses the information to help his patients. I love it when that
> happens.
>
> The CD route may be just what you and your dad need, but be aware that over
> time 700 MB CDs will be a pain. We are thinking of going to a 80 Gig server
> and bigger harddrives in the next year or so. Remember to plan on future
> growth, especially in a law office.
>
> Good luck,
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Fogleman" <snotr0cket@home.com>
> To: <slug@nks.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 2:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Inexpensive Tape Drive
>
> | Bill Ehlert wrote:
> | >
> | > Good suggestion Kevin.
> | >
> | > Robert can now choose which backup option to take - tape, CD burner ,
> mobile
> | > rack / hard drive.
> | > My experience with backups, over many years, has led me to migrate from
> 1)
> | > problematic tape to 2) lengthy CD burning disk jockey sessions, with
> | > occasional bad burns *ouch*, and finally to 3) fast and reliable
> removable
> | > hard drives.
> | >
> | > Just remember that hard drives can be mounted on LINUX and other OS's to
> | > transport files from platform to platform without the need for
> additional
> | > backup software that will be needed by tape drives and CD burners. I use
> my
> | > own scripts and cron to backup LINUX files and resort to DOS batch files
> on
> | > the other OS.
> | >
> | > Robert, my suggestion to you is to determine how much data you need to
> | > backup and choose the right media and what you want to pay in terms of
> | > hardware, software, and time. Time is money and the more time it takes
> to
> | > backup files presents another problem. The longer it takes to do the
> job,
> | > the less often you will want to do it. Are you willing to endure long
> backup
> | > sessions and play tape or CD jockey?
> | >
> | > Bottom line is - Keep it simple and fast. If you can, make it fun - or
> have
> | > someone else do it.
> | >
> | > Bill
> | >
> | > ----- Original Message -----
> | > From: "Kevin Fogleman" <snotr0cket@home.com>
> | > To: <slug@nks.net>
> | > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:59 AM
> | > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Inexpensive Tape Drive
> | >
> | > | I'd recommend buying a good CD burner and then going with Mondo.
> Mondo is
> | > a backup program that not only archives your data to CD, but it
> | > | also allows you to make the CDs bootable, and it allows you to restore
> | > your *entire* system with one command that you type at bootup. It is
> | > | definitely worth checking out, it's what I'm going to be using with
> the
> | > server at my dad's law office.
> | > |
> | > | http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo/
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | --Kevin Fogleman
> | > |
> | > | Robert Haeckl wrote:
> | > | >
> | > | > Looking to buy an inexpensive tape backup drive either new or maybe
> from
> | > | > Ebay. Would like to put a full backup and a week's worth of daily
> | > | > incrementals on one tape (~8-10 GB ought to be enough). I've been
> | > | > tarring selected directories onto a zip disk and occasionally
> burning an
> | > | > archive, but I would prefer to do full backups. Anybody have
> | > | > suggestions or preferences? ATAPI vs. SCSI? Seagate vs. HP vs.
> | > | > OnStream vs. ...? 8mm vs. Travan vs. ADR vs. ...?
> | > | >
> | > | > -Robert
> |
> | Actually, the whole CD disk jockey thing that one would have had to do 1
> or
> | 2 years ago has been what has largely made me skeptical of CD-based back
> | ups. However, with the advent of drives that can burn a full CD in 2 or 3
> | minutes (such as the Plextor PX-W2410TA, a 24x-write drive reviewed
> | recently at storagereview.com), it seems like that wouldn't be a problem
> | any more. Also, while that particular drive may retail for around $210 on
> | Pricewatch, there are many other reliable (read: low to no "coaster" rate)
> | drives out there at slower speeds that still write a whole CD in under 10
> | minutes.
> |
> | Also, with the low cost of CD-R media, you can make daily backups without
> | jepordizing any earlier backups that you had, in case you find, say, it's
> | Thursday, you suffered from data corruption in an infrequently used file
> on
> | Monday, but your latest backup was on Wednesday. If you're using tapes or
> | CDs, you will most likely have a copy of each daily backup so that you can
> | restore from a known-good copy.
> | --
> | --Kevin Fogleman
Oh, also, I forgot to mention that Mondo will do diffs between the files
that it already has and the files that have changed or been added, so I
think you only have to go through the CD jockey thing once, unless you
change a lot of data in between backups.
-- --Kevin Fogleman
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