Re: [SLUG] Announcement: Formation of a new LUG

From: Paul M Foster (paulf@quillandmouse.com)
Date: Sun Jan 05 2003 - 22:06:55 EST


On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 01:36:12PM -0500, David R. Meyer wrote:

> > But a too-tight email list policy is a minor problem. A schism would be
> > far worse. Stick with the existing LUG. Work within the system. :)
>
> While I certainly respect your opinions Robin, working within the system
> doesn't work here. SLUG has policies of which those of us who break
> them are reminded of, each and every infraction. However, when one of
> the SLUG officers wants to change the rules they constantly remind us
> of, then the system is broken. Case in point...Paul Foster reminded me
> that job postings belong on the jobs page when I found a LOCAL Linux
> job, and posted it, knowing for a fact that many of us are out of work.
> Not a month ago, Paul himself posts a job...one the list. Following the
> SLUG rules, he should have posted it one the jobs page.

You're probably right. I probably should have posted it to the Jobs
page. This was a note from a guy at the Tampa Bay PC Users Group who
knew a guy who was looking for someone who could configure a Linux
network. That and an email address were all that was in the note, and I
wasn't even sure that it was actually a paying gig. The message was sent
to more than one recipient, and I was not sure who the other recipients
were. I looked at it as only marginally a job offer, but I probably
should have posted to the Jobs page anyway. I didn't think much of it at
the time. Had someone pointed out my error, I would have apologized at
the time. In any case, apologies for not following the rules. I never
claimed perfection. (Well, not _publicly_ anyway. ;-)

<snip>

> But the list isn't the only problem. Like you said, the list is a small
> problem. One of our members was recently told by the list administrator
> that he would unsubscribe him from SLUG after some statements that were
> made. Is that the role of a list admin? Frankly, I don't think so.
> I've see, and been apart of much nastier things than that, and while I
> fully expected to be removed from the list, I was not.

Actually, the poster was given a "first warning" for his poor list
conduct. This is typical of what list admins do when a list has
published rules.

>
> At least two of us have been invited to start our own LUG...some even
> begged us to leave SLUG. At least two people wrote to me offline,
> called me everything but white, and TOLD me to leave (it's been a while
> now).

This is unfortunate. I don't know what else to say.

Paul



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