>
>
>Despite that, the idea of site filtering was the first thing I
>had thought of. In that part of the world I'd think it
>is more than just "unlikely". Why not traceroute those
>IP's and see how far it goes?
>
I have several email correspondents in Vietnam and Thailand. None of 
their connections go through China. Their primaries are through the 
Global Cable & Wireless equatorial "word girdling" undersea fiber 
network. I sort of  know (we're on some email lists together) some 
people in the Vietnamese communications ministry, and they say no one in 
that part of the world - government people anyway - trusts China.
>Remember the story of Panama's national telecomms
>authority port filtering all the ports that VoIP etc runs on because
>of complaints from their national telephone provider? And this
>is stuff that TRANSITS as well as ORIGINATES there.
>
This story was not entirely true. Again, that big GC&W link was 
unaffected, ditto MCI/UUNet north/south connections.  I know people who 
do maintenance for GC&W in Panama, and LinuxJournal publisher Phil 
Hughes now lives in Costa Rica and does most of  his business by VoIP 
phone over a link that runs through Panama. The Panama guys bitched 
about their local stuff - they want to set up their own ISP now and are 
bribing... err... lobbying to get some laws changed so they can - but 
had no trouble with passthrough traffic. I'm sure none of them have 
circumvented Panama's laws by tapping directly into   the GC&W link. No 
way... fine upstanding citizens. mostly US Army veterans.
When I was in Jordan last December, it was the same there - couldn't use 
VoIP, had to pay huge l/d rates. Was amaingly expensive to use my 
tri-mode cell phone, too. (Need tri-mode there because all of the 
mideast including Israel runs GSM.)  A lot of countries are being held 
back technically by monopoly-level comm rates and  restrrictions. I'm 
sure that would never happen here. Our FCC would never let telecom 
companies consolidate and and allow burdensome restrictions on customer 
uses unless we voted a bunch of corps-bought greedhead politicians into 
power,  and we Americans are far too smart for that (he says jokingly 
but sadly).
- Robin
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