Re: [SLUG] Real OSes

From: Kwan Lowe (kwan@digitalhermit.com)
Date: Thu Dec 01 2005 - 07:59:51 EST


> They get stomped by you how? Do you go crazy like Godzilla and stomp their
> cases?

Yes, and it looks quite impressive. I flail my arms around and drool and scream.
Since I'm a biggish fellow with a biggish appetite even the toughest cases don't
stand a chance.

> Can't say I've ever had that problem with Citrix. And why do you you need
> to install Acrobat? Up above you're telling us how you often use Open
> Office. Oh that's right. You couldn't make your point if you bothered to
> mention that you can do that in OO and that it's free.

Thank you for pointing that out. I was actually trying to print a webpage, not an
Office document, but I guess that's besides the point. There is an option to print
to a file from the Print dialog. It's not a PDF or PS file though so didn't
immediately figure out how to view it. Didn't spend a lot of time though because I
ended up creating the PDF on Linux. I did eventually solve the Windows problem by
creating a CUPS PDF printer on another machine. Works well and drops the file right
into a share.

Please let me know how to print PDFs from Firefox and the gvim editor I've
installed. This would be quite useful for me.

I'm also interested in how you have your multi-monitor setup in Windows. I can
duplicate the exact same problem with the Citrix client on my Thinkpad T41 laptop at
work when using the external monitor as an extended desktop.

The reason I'm posting the above rant is precisely because I shelled out $200 for XP
Professional to do one thing -- edit some videos. This is on top of the $89 I spent
three months ago for XP Home when I assumed it would suffice to do such a simple
task. Is it working properly for me? No:

http://www.flux.org/pipermail/talk/2005-November/007573.html

I've spent about $90 total on the Studio 9 application with all the little upgrades.
Don't mind this price though, since it actually worked pretty well.

>> Geez, whenever I use Windows I feel like I'm riding a tricycle.
>
> As opposed to trying to ride a unicycle with only one leg trying to get
> something to work in Linux? Overall I'd give this troll posting a 1/10.

If Windows works for you I'm very happy. It's not working for me and I'm out close
to $300 because I succumbed to those beautiful butterfly ads. So am I/was I pissed
off when I wrote that? Sure. $300 is a significant amount to me.

> Perhaps next time you should try to point out advantages of using Linux
> instead of spreading your own FUD. They could be things like:
>
> - Choice. There's more distro's than you can shake a stick at. If one
> doesn't work for you there's probably one out there that does.
> - GUI. I'd kill to have KDE on Windows. Hell I'd kill to have OSX GUI
> instead.
> - Security. Not running as root is a good thing. No viruses. No spyware.
> No Sony rootkit.
> - Bugs are fixed within hours/days instead of 6+ months
> - Limited support for MS products when they reach their life cycle. How
> many people out there still use Windows 98 or ME?
> - Live CD's. It's like a try before you buy. Don't like it? Well you
> didn't have to install it to find out you don't like it.
> - Obtaining application software. How many CD's is the latest Debian stable
> release? 14?
>
> There's more and I'm sure others can point them out. But there's also
> reasons to run Windows. And reasons you may want to run OSX.
>

Sure, there are reasons to do run any OS. There are reasons to run a single tasking
OS. There are reasons when DOS is actually a good fit. And certainly Windws has a
place in many environments. Linux just works better for me.

That's not to say that it's not without its faults. For every point you make about
Linux there's a flip side:

Choice -- too many distros. No standards. Support? Sure, you can backport fixes to
older distros since you have the source code. I have done so.. Pulled in diffs,
modified some structs and fiddled with autoconf. Not tough, but not something the
average user could do. Application software? The reason I bought the machine was
because Kino didn't work well enough for what I needed.

OSX? I remember when I demoed it as an Apple rep several years ago. Worked well then
and was pretty impressive. So easy to use, in fact, that even though I received the
tutorial video and instructions from Apple just moments before a presentation, I was
still able to answer questions and edit video in iMovie. I still have a lot of Apple
hardware around. A Mini, several G3s, Performas and Quadras. The Mini is nice, but a
little underpowered for what I was doing. With another Gig RAM and a faster
processor it would probably do real well. Maybe I'll pick up an iMac or one of the
lower-end desktops if I can't get the Windows box to work properly.

But as I said, if Windows works for you, that's wonderful. I'm sorry if you didn't
think my Linux testimonial was good enough for you.

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