Possum wrote:
>> Assuming each of the donated computers had its own Windows license, or
the
organization had a bulk license, you should be able to use _one_ OEM *disk*
to
install on multiple machines.
OK, so what do you think he was asking of MS? What's your theory on MS
thinking they needed to send in the lawyers?
If your assumption was correct, there would be no need for him to ask
permission. Since he did ask for something, and MS felt the need to send in
the lawyers, don't you think it was likely that he did not have enough
licenses?
>> I'm not sure if this is the case, but number of disks/copies has nothing
to do
with how many computers it can be installed on.
By "one copy", I mean "one licensed copy". But I posed it as a question,
because I'd like to know more.
Reading between the lines, it creates the impression the they might have
installed a single license on 50 PCs and were caught. MS is a public
company and the managers have a fiduciary duty to the stockholders to
protect their property. They would have no choice but to send in the
lawyers. But rather than jump to conclusions, I'd like Pete to clarify.
Ken Elliott
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-----Original Message-----
From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of Possum
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:13 PM
To: slug@nks.net
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux mp3 player
Assuming each of the donated computers had its own Windows license, or the
organization had a bulk license, you should be able to use _one_ OEM *disk*
to
install on multiple machines.
I'm not sure if this is the case, but number of disks/copies has nothing to
do
with how many computers it can be installed on.
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:02:07PM -0500, Ken Elliott wrote:
> So you purchased _one_ copy and wanted to put it on 50 PCs? Of course
they
> can't allow that. And the chances of getting any large company's legal
> department to allow special exemption is highly unlikely. Easier to get
the
> marketing department to donate disks, rather than get a special exemption.
>
> So why did they send lawyers? Did you actually install the software on
> multiple machines?
>
>
> Ken Elliott
> =====================
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slug@nks.net [mailto:slug@nks.net] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:56 AM
> To: slug@nks.net
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux mp3 player
>
> Ken Elliott wrote:
> >>> (threatening my favorite charity with a lawsuit..
> >
> > More info? Can you provide a link?
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> We were almost done with an electronic medical records application back
> in '99 when we were given over 100 older computers as a donation. We
> *bought* a OEM disk designed to install Windows 95 on multiple computers
> and tried to clear its use with *them* on about 50 of the computers,
> stand alone - not networked, not on the web.
>
> We were legit, registered with the state as non-profit and with the IRS
> as a 501 (c) (3). We made it clear that we wanted only permission, not
> support. It would have cost them a buck to say yes. They not only said
> "no" they spent hundreds or thousands spinning their 'no", but it didn't
> stop with that, they sent a pack of lawyers after us as well. The $40K
> supposedly would have made it OK, but we didn't have it.
>
> I asked my congresswoman, Katherine Harris, about the M$ claim that it
> would be "illegal" for them to give us permission. She had one or
> another government agency investigate this for a long time. When they
> finally reported their findings it turned out that M$ was lying. Who
> would have thought that M$ would ever lie?
>
> We switched everything to Linux, but our back was broken. Our
> application would not port to Linux, even using Wine - and The Great
> Satan claims that Wine is violative or their patents anyway. The people
> who had helped us in the past quickly lost interest and we had only
> doctors, not programmers. We will be disbanding at the end of this year.
>
> Basically working alone, now, I haven't even managed to keep the website
> up to date, but it will be up such as it is until Dec 31.
>
> http://sun-health.org/
>
> > In the light of my experience, (threatening my favorite charity with a
> > lawsuit, then offering to "settle" for "only" $40K, which effectively
> > destroyed their project) no.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Pete
> http://pete-theisen.com/
> http://elect-pete-theisen.com/
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