Re: [SLUG] Debian

From: SOTL (sotl155360@earthlink.net)
Date: Thu Dec 29 2005 - 10:14:29 EST


On Wednesday 28 December 2005 04:19 pm, Ken Elliott wrote:
> >>What I have firmly established is that doing such with the current
>
> disarray in Commercial Linux distributions, Red Hat, SuSE, and Mandriva,
> that that is not possible for anyone on the lass that guru level.
>
> I'm not too bright, but I was able to get Linux/Apache/MySQL running pretty
> easily on Fedora Core 3, SuSE, and Debian Sarge. There must be something
> basically different about our approaches, since our results are so
> different.

My object is not to get MySQL to work or Open Office to work; I have that.
They as stand alone in Mandrake work quite well. In SuSE they do not and I
have no desire to repair SuSE so that they do since I simply do not like
SuSE.

My objective is to take Open Office Data Base and connect it to a MySQL server
which means ODBC and/or JDBC must work with MySQL. That means that MySQL and
ODBC and/or JDBC must be compatible. For compatibility they must be the same
version and compile which trying to use MySQL from one of the commercial
distribution and ODBC and/or JDBC from the vendor are not compatable since
they are different compiles plus there are possible other issues I haven't
even discovered yet. Modifying and adding components to existing
distributions is not the easiest thing to do for non techies.

By the way due to the age of the distribution that if you are using Fedore
Core 3 it is most probable that obtaining a ODBC / JDBC connector for Open
Office to MySQL is impossible.

>
> I install strictly off of CDs. That is, I download the entire 5 (or so)
> ISOs. I wonder if that makes a difference. I purchased my first good
> distro, SuSE 9.1, and it was pretty painless.

There has been a big chance in the Commercial Linux world since SuSE 9.1.
Namely SuSE has gong bankrupt in all but name and been acquired by Novel who
is in a major fight with The SCO Group over ownership et of Linux for details
see Groklaw. Mandrake has gone bankrupt, reemerged from bankruptcy, and
merged with Connective; the current Mandriva 2006 distribution is this
combine first which personally I would not install in any box used more more
than hoppie purposes out in old garage. Two companies; one in France, one in
Brazil, three major languages for the people in the combine company; English,
French, & Portuguese, two distributions merged together, two sets of egos of
who is right and who is wrong, NO WAY MAN that is got to be the biggest
recipe for the most buggies software ever produced. Do get me wrong they will
sort it out but that will be some time in the future. Mergers are always more
difficult than perceived at the start and this one should prove to be a
Duzie.

> I usually install for Server, but I also make sure that I have KDE and
> Gnome, since I am a big GUI wimp.
>
> I'll bet some simple thing is causing you grief. Don't give up yet.

Give up hell. I have been working on this now since the Red Hat 5.3 days and I
am still bitching over the exact same issue now that I was then with
commercial linux.

> Sometimes, the easiest way to find a needle in a haystack is to roll around
> in the haystack.

Since my technical knowledge is a little bit greater now the easiest way may
be to give up on commercial linux and switch to a higher level of linux such
as Debian or Gentoo but that does not solve commercial Linux's problem just
ignores it.

>
> Ken Elliott
>
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